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What exactly was the Lucifer Rebellion? I hear a lot about it, but couldn´t find any clear info on the internet.
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Re: lucifer rebellion
Sat, May 3, 2008 - 3:17 AMYou will not find anything clear about Lucifer, because like so many other deities and demons, it is a made up person. Lucifer is from the Latin. It means bringer of light. Depending on what religion you belong to, in whichever time period, Lucifer could be the Morning Star, which we call Venus. Jewish, Christian, Pagan, and various angel worshiping religions all contribute to our ideas of Lucifer today.
To find out about the "Lucifer Rebellion" you will need to read through the long hard pages of the Urantia book. The term "Lucifer Rebellion" comes from this source. This book is one of the biggest single bodies of channeled material I have read. It makes no sense to me, but many people follow the Urantia book like a bible.
There are many channels, and each one holds some truth and some personality which disguises the truth. It makes the four dimensional world fun.
Peace out,
Mitch
Illtud Melchizedek
Melchizedek27
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Sun, May 4, 2008 - 12:53 PMIt was a Rebellion on the Planet (star like venus is the moring star) Tiamet AKA Lucifer... This was the planet that was where the astroid belt now is... in fact that is what the astroid belt is... This planet was a giant water world that shined like a star... Like Venus shines(thu it is not a water world...it shine bretty bright thu...2nd brightest in the night sky...) Lucifer was the brightest star... the morning star... Anyway... There was A Galactic Federation base there... Tiamet was Destroyed and the Draconians and the Orions with some of the Plieadeans rebelled agaist the GF... That was the Luciferian Rebelion... The Draconian overlords that now control the world are of that order... as well the illumanati (the human priesthood... alien middle men...lol) -
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Sun, May 4, 2008 - 12:57 PMOh... that is also where the symbology of Lucifer Falling to Earth Comes from... They came to earth after the destruction of Tiamet... As well as other planets in this system...
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Memories of the Fall
Tue, May 6, 2008 - 11:09 PMManjushri, is this what is recorded in the Urantia Book?
I had not come across this description before, but some of these elements are very accurate to some of the past-life memories of my Soul Family. In short, we had one of our two planets destroyed by the Reptilians, joined the Galactic Council as guardians, then witnessed a massive betrayal and rebellion that united a programmed alliance of Zeta Soldiers (Greys...but fully programmed soldiers) with the Reptilian (Draconian) Armies and their Robots to overthrown the entire Galactic Council.
From our work in healing the trauma associated with these events, we have discovered many similarities in this series of events and the rise of this "Galactic Empire" to the events channeled by George Lucas in Star Wars. The actual details vary among characters, planets, etc, but the overall storyline is stunningly similar. Our memories include many events that are much like the rise of a secret "Rebel Alliance" that eventually was able to destroy the "program hubs" that were controlling the Reptilian Robots (or Draconian "Droid Armies" if you prefer) and holding the program in place within the Zeta Soldiers (much like Storm Trooper Clones)... The destruction of these hubs or "Death Stars" immediately broke down the power structure of force within the Empire and allowed the Galactic Council to be restored.
Of course, many of those souls and powerful beings who were responsible for the Empire ended up fleeing to...guess where...Earth. So many thousands of years later, around Earth's Galactic Equinox (13,000 years ago at the end of the Ice Age and the peak of Atlantis), things were getting a little out of hand and many species in the Galactic Council sent ambassadors to Earth to be born as Humans and help to restore balance, and aid in the further evolution of humankind...
Many of you know the story from there... I apologize for truncating so drastically, but I'm working on writing out the full recordings of the memories of those who remember these events, through their healings, relationships with each other, and awakening to their purpose on this planet now... I will share this story in full at that time.
Aloha Ke Akua
Blessed Be
In Lakech
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Sat, May 10, 2008 - 1:14 PMSome of it is recorded there... some in the Sumerian Tablets...
Yes, The Zeta Soldiers... Non self replicating, Cybernetic Organisms... are also being used by the US Gov.
Yes.. the Jedi are based on the Egyptian Temple of Jed and Jed Priest Warriors...
I too am writing about this... What I wrote is from my memories... channeling, and study...
We should talk in more detail.
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Mon, May 5, 2008 - 8:29 PMI disagree with this theory. First off, there was never a solid planet where the asteroid belts are. Those asteroids formed like that at the beginning of the solar system.
Secondly, in the early angel religions, The Morning Star is our hero. The Yezidis, a religious sect among the Kurds still worship him. Lucifer is the Latin name, but they call him Melek Taus. He is an old god that has been demonized by newer religions like Zoroastrian, Jewish, Christian, and Islam. They believe that Melek Taus is not the creator but the judge of all that live. The story of the rebellion they give is that Melek Taus refused to submit to the human beings that god created. God then made him the ruler of all the angels.
This is just their story, but I like the idea. Religions and gods are always more about people than they are about spirits in the sky. The real spirits from space are always even more fantastic than our imaginations. I will be honest with you though, we aliens throw names around all the time to identify ourselves. A lot of it is done to set up future developments, the way the characters in the Dune books do it. You can't always count on how these associations are going to work out. You need to do research when you are coming to a planet. Show up calling yourself Lucifer one century gets you in like flint. Show up a couple of thousand years later with the same name and they hate you.
Calling something you are talking about the Lucifer Rebellion is going to bring up strong emotional reactions and severe prejudice. You just need to be prepared for that.
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Tue, May 6, 2008 - 2:49 PMVery interesting- Mitch, what do you mean by ´we aliens´? ;)
The angel religions, this is where these replies seem to have their information stemmed from. I shall look that up.. the Urantia books fall into this category as well? -
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Sat, May 10, 2008 - 7:18 AMWe aliens - I mean that the starseed soul group I am linked psychically with is called Melchizedek. I think that is odd in itself. It is a name from ancient Hebrew and Aramaic that surfaces in the Christian and New Age religions still today.
I am called Illtud Melchizedek, and I am quite at home with the angels for many lifetimes on earth. Angels are not mysterious, godlike creatures to those who know them, but some have built religions around them since they are easily accessed and have a palpable reality.
The Urantia Books are sort of like the book of Mormon. A person just started dictating it and other people wrote it down. It is a channeled book that is a hard read. It is from the late 1940's and it has been on the book shelves at metaphysical bookstores for a good 50 years now, so a lot of New Age thinking has been influenced by it over the years. -
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Sat, May 10, 2008 - 1:47 PMActually it is from the 1930s...and talks about the global warming, holes in the ozone layer, as well as many other things not well understood until 1960 or later...
It appeared in it's entirety in the bottom of an elevator that was 'stuck' in the sub basement level of a publishing house that was about to go bankrupt... It was not mid-wayed... or channeled... It was written by the celestial beings themselves... if you have read it... it will tell you this in the beginning chapters.. -
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Sat, May 10, 2008 - 1:50 PMen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urantia_Book
The Urantia Book (also sometimes called The Urantia Papers or the Fifth Epochal Revelation) is a spiritual and philosophical book that discusses God, science, religion, history, philosophy, and destiny.[1] It originated in Chicago, Illinois, U.S.A., sometime between 1924 and 1955, but its authorship is controversial.
The writers introduce the word Urantia as the name of the planet Earth and state that their intent is to "present enlarged concepts and advanced truth" in an "endeavor to expand cosmic consciousness and enhance spiritual perception". Among many other topics, it expounds on the origin and meaning of life, describes humankind's place in the universe, discusses the relationship between God and people, and presents a detailed biography of Jesus. The book is 2,097 pages long, and consists of a Foreword and 196 papers, divided into four parts.
The Urantia Foundation first published The Urantia Book in 1955 in English. Translations into numerous languages are available, with several new translations in process.
In 2001, a United States jury trial in Oklahoma found that the Urantia Foundation's 1983 renewal of the book's copyright was invalid.[2] This decision was upheld in the United States Court of Appeals 10th District,[3] and the English version of the book is considered to have entered the public domain in the U.S. as of 1983. In 2006, the international copyright on the English text expired.[4] Complete, searchable editions of The Urantia Book are available on the Internet, as well as free audio versions. -
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Sat, May 10, 2008 - 1:50 PMlater on that page:
Authorship
William S. Sadler, MD
William S. Sadler, MD
The exact circumstances of the origin of The Urantia Book are unknown. The book and its publishers do not name a human author, but instead it is written as if directly presented by numerous celestial beings appointed to the task of providing an "epochal" spiritual revelation to humankind. At the end of each paper either a name, or an order of celestial being or group of beings is credited as its author.[5][6][7]
As early as 1911, William S. Sadler and his wife Lena Sadler, physicians in Chicago and well known in the community, were approached by a neighbor who was concerned that she would occasionally find her husband in a deep sleep and breathing abnormally. She reported that she was unable to wake him at these times. The Sadlers came to observe the episodes, and over time, the unconscious individual produced written and spoken communications that seemed as if they were from entities who claimed to be spiritual beings. The Sadlers were both respected physicians, and William Sadler was a debunker of paranormal claims, who is portrayed as not believing in the supernatural. In 1929, he published a book The Mind at Mischief in which he explained fraudulent methods of mediums and how self-deception leads to psychic claims. He wrote in an appendix that there were two cases that he had not explained to his satisfaction.[1] -
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Thu, May 29, 2008 - 2:59 PMI just read "Dolphins ET's & Angels" by Timothy Wyllie, and he has a take on the Lucifer rebellion that I find to be very resonant. -
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Sat, May 31, 2008 - 8:00 AMI read that book too. I loved most of it, was kind of annoyed about how most chapters started out like "I smoked ganja with ...", but I got to meet Timothy Wylie in person a few years ago and it was very interesting to see how the roof had to raise up a couple of feet when he walked in the room (energetically the man is huge). And during his talk there were the usual people uncomfortable with the energy trying to bring it down which he did not allow. I was very impressed.
The Dolphin technology was interesting too.
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Sat, May 10, 2008 - 11:03 PM"We aliens"
pleeze Re: fur 2 ET101: "ALIENZ" AND "ET'S".............
- I mean that the starseed soul group I am linked psychically with is called Melchizedek."
hehe.......ya dont say......
and yes, "astroid belt" was once a lush plan it az kapt manjushri haz stated, az was marz..........
this "solar system" haz scene "better daze" fore shore.......LOL
siriusly........................
HA....."lucifer Re: bellion......dont even get me started mate......SIRIUSLY ;;>)))
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Sat, May 10, 2008 - 1:19 PMen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucifer
Lucifer is a name frequently given to Satan in Judeo-Christian belief because of a particular interpretation of a passage in the Book of Isaiah. More specifically, it is supposed to have been Satan's name before being cast out of heaven.
In Latin, the word "Lucifer", meaning "Light-Bringer" (from lux, lucis, "light", and ferre, "to bear, bring"), is a name for the "Morning Star" (the planet Venus in its dawn appearances). The Latin Vulgate version of the Bible used this word twice to refer to the Morning Star: once in 2 Peter 1:19 to translate the Greek word "Φωσφόρος" (Phosphoros), which has exactly the same literal meaning of "Light-Bringer" that "Lucifer" has in Latin; and once in Isaiah 14:12 to translate "הילל" (Hêlēl), which also means "Morning Star". In the latter passage the title of "Morning Star" is given to the tyrannous Babylonian king, who the prophet says is destined to fall. This passage was later applied to the prince of the demons, and so the name "Lucifer" came to be used for Satan, and was popularized in works such as Dante's Inferno and Milton's Paradise Lost, but for English speakers the greatest influence has been its use in the King James Version for what more modern English versions translate as "Morning Star" or "Day Star".
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Sat, May 10, 2008 - 1:25 PMwww.space.com/scienceastr..._020318.html
Long-Destroyed Fifth Planet May Have Caused Lunar Cataclysm, Researchers Say
By Leonard David
Senior Space Writer
posted: 03:00 pm ET
18 March 2002
HOUSTON, TEXAS -- Our solar system may have had a fifth terrestrial planet, one that was swallowed up by the Sun. But before it was destroyed, the now missing-in-action world made a mess of things.
Space scientists John Chambers and Jack Lissauer of NASA's Ames Research Center hypothesize that along with Mercury, Venus, Earth, and Mars -- the terrestrial, rocky planets -- there was a fifth terrestrial world, likely just outside of Mars's orbit and before the inner asteroid belt.
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Sat, May 10, 2008 - 1:32 PMModern models in Astro-Physics do in fact show a planet to have formed between mars and Jupiter. Do more research...
Exert from www.space.com/scienceastr...oids-ez.html
Origin
There are two hypotheses about how most of the asteroids formed. One says they broke off of a mother planet that existed between Mars and Jupiter. More likely, however, they represent what space was like before the planets formed, and they are the remnants of that process -- bits and pieces that never quite joined together. -
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Sat, May 10, 2008 - 1:40 PMen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiamat
In Babylonian mythology[1], Tiamat is the sea, personified as a goddess,[2] and a monstrous embodiment of primordial chaos.[3] In the Enûma Elish, the Babylonian epic of creation, she gives birth to the first generation of gods; she later makes war upon them and is split in two by the storm-god Marduk, who uses her body to form the heavens and the earth. She was known as Thalattē (as variant of thalassa, the Greek word for "sea") in the Hellenistic Babylonian Berossus' first volume of universal history, and some Akkadian copyists of Enûma Elish slipped and substituted the ordinary word for "sea" for Tiamat, so close was the association.[4]
Mythology
Apsu (or Abzu, from Sumerian ab = water, zu = far) fathered upon Tiamat the Elder Gods Lahmu and Lahamu (the "muddy"), a title given to the gatekeepers at the Enki Abzu temple in Eridu. Lahmu and Lahamu, in turn, were the parents of the axis or pivot of the heavens (Anshar, from an = heaven, shar = axle or pivot) and the earth (Kishar); Anshar and Kishar were considered to meet on the horizon, becoming thereby the parents of Anu and Ki. Tiamat was the "shining" personification of salt water who roared and smote in the chaos of original creation. She and Apsu filled the cosmic abyss with the primeval waters. She is "Ummu-Hubur who formed all things".
In the myth, the god Enki (later Ea) believed correctly that Apsu, upset with the chaos they created, was planning to murder the younger gods; and so slew him. This angered Kingu, their son, who reported the event to Tiamat, whereupon she fashioned monsters to battle the gods in order to avenge Apsu's death. These were her own offspring: giant sea serpents, storm demons, fish-men, scorpion-men and many others. Tiamat possessed the Tablets of Destiny, and in the primordial battle she gave them to Kingu, the god she had chosen as her lover and the leader of her host. The Gods gathered in terror, but Anu, (replaced later, first by Enlil and, in the late version that has survived after the First Dynasty of Babylon, by Marduk, the son of Ea), first extracting a promise that he would be revered as "king of the gods", overcame her, armed with the arrows of the winds, a net, a club, and an invincible spear.
And the lord stood upon Tiamat's hinder parts,
And with his merciless club he smashed her skull.
He cut through the channels of her blood,
And he made the North wind bear it away into secret places.
Slicing Tiamat in half, he made from her ribs the vault of heaven and earth. Her weeping eyes became the source of the Tigris and the Euphrates. With the approval of the elder gods, he took from Kingu the Tablets of Destiny, installing himself as the head of the Babylonian pantheon. Kingu was captured and was later slain: his red blood mixed with the red clay of the Earth would make the body of humankind, created to act as the servant of the younger Igigi Gods.
The principal theme of the epic is the justified elevation of Marduk to command over all the gods. "It has long been realized that the Marduk epic, for all its local coloring and probable elaboration by the Babylonian theologians, reflects in substance older Sumerian material," E. A. Speiser remarked in 1942[12] adding "The exact Sumerian prototype, however, has not turned up so far." Without corroboration in surviving texts, this surmise that the Babylonian version of the story is based upon a modified version of an older epic, in which Enlil, not Marduk, was the god who slew Tiamat,[13] is more recently dismissed as "distinctly improbable",[14] Marduk in fact has no precise Sumerian prototype.
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Re: lucifer rebellion
Sat, May 10, 2008 - 2:01 PMSecondly, in the early angel religions, The Morning Star is our hero.
Correct... perhaps you don't understand what rebellion is... Or the fact this only happened like 36,000 years ago....
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Sat, May 10, 2008 - 9:39 AM"The only devils in the world are those running around in our own heart"
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Sat, May 10, 2008 - 2:07 PMI love Gandhi...
The statement is very true...
D-Evils Exist...
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Mon, May 26, 2008 - 9:14 AMYeah, but have you ever met a drunk cowboy in a bar? -
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Mon, May 26, 2008 - 6:17 PMA cowboy goes into a bar and orders a beer. The bartender gives him a beer and a bowl of nuts. The fellow starts drinking his beer and munches on a few nuts when suddenly he hears a soft voice, "Hey that's a nice tie". The cowboy looks around and sees no one except the bartender at the other end of the bar. He takes another sip of his beer and munches a few more nuts when again he hears the soft voice, "You are looking good, have you lost weight?". He looks around, dazed and confused, and only sees the bartender busily doing bartender stuff down at the other end of the bar. He has another sip of his beer, a few more nuts, and the same thing happens again, the soft voice, "Jaysus, where do you buy your clothes? I simply love your jacket". The cowboy calls the bartender down. "Do you hear voices?" he asks nervously. "Voices Sir?" the bartender asks, thinking he's got a weirdo sitting at the bar. "Yeah, watch this" says the cowboy. He sips his beer and munches a handful of nuts. Sure enough there's the soft voice. "Man are you smart or what." "Oh, that", says the bartender, "its the nuts." "The nuts?", asks the guy.
"Yes" says the bartender, "they're complimentary."
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Thu, June 5, 2008 - 6:58 AMLucifer is my my best friend and my greatest enemy. The same fire that warms and comforts will burn and mame if it gets out of hand. The Luciferian light can be very dangerous. It's best to balance the Luciferian influence with a good dose of the Ahrimanic. Too bad I can't take my own advice on this one.
Y'all are some of the most unbalanced, luciferian minded people on this site, and yet you all seem to be totally unaware of this. Sad, really.
Do any of you actually study the Western mystery traditions, or are you just brain washed channel suckers?
thepaganpath.blog-city.com/luci...r.htm
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Thu, June 5, 2008 - 7:27 AMFrom Eliphas Levi:
"Lucifer, the Astral Light . . . . is an intermediate force existing in all creation, it serves to create and to destroy, and the Fall of Adam was an erotic intoxication which has rendered his generation a slave to this fatal light . . . every sexual passion that overpowers our senses is a whirlwind of that light which seeks to drag us towards the abyss of death, Folly. Hallucinations, visions, ecstasies are all forms of a very dangerous excitation due to this interior phosphorus (?). Thus light, finally, is of the nature of fire, the intelligent use of which warms and vivifies, and the excess of which, on the contrary, dissolves and annihilates. Thus man is called upon to assume a sovereign empire over that (astral) light and conquer thereby his immortality, and is threatened at the same time with being intoxicated, absorbed, and eternally destroyed by it. This light, therefore, inasmuch as it is devouring, revengeful, and fatal, would thus really be hell-fire, the serpent of the legend; the tormented errors of which it is full, the tears and the gnashing of teeth of the abortive beings it devours, the phantom of life that escapes them, and seems to mock and insult their agony, all this would be the devil or Satan indeed."
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Sun, June 8, 2008 - 3:45 PMDavid,
Thanks for your clarity. And the belly laugh. I was getting ready to leave this group because of the fear and blame game stuff that is rampant (with a few exceptions).
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